Moto Guzzi National Owners Club (2024)

On the way to the Illinois Rally in mid-May, 2003, the electronic fuel injection pump on my 1993 California III i.e. failed to start. These pumps are essentially identical on all fuel injected Guzzi models manufactured from 1993-2003 (after which the pump was installed internal to the fuel tank). Although I didn't know it at the time, I was about to enter "auto parts hell". This is my story.

When that pre-ignition "beautiful buzz" doesn't happen, few owners are prepared, since these pumps seldom fail and are taken for granted; accordingly, the rider is unprepared with knowledge of specifications, parts number, location of installation, or a source for parts. As such, failure can be catastrophic on a trip a long way from home, and more costly than it needs to be.

For the uninitiated, specifications for this pump are essentially the same for all 1993 - 2003 models: nominal voltage is 12 volts, system pressure is 3.0 bar (43.5 psi), delivery quantity is 100 liters per hour (l/h), and power consumption is less than 6 amps at system pressure. Included in the design (and all fuel pumps) is a check valve, and this one has as well an overpressure valve which shot circuits if pressure rises above 5 bar. The pump's inlet nipple is a nominal 12mm and the outlet nipple measures a nominal 7mm; buying a pump with different size inlet/outlet as a stop-gap emergency repair starts a domino-effect of changing fuel line size, thus pressure ...not desirable.

While this information is of absolutely no value to auto parts staff (their parts systems are established only on auto make, year, and part number), it is important for you, as some retailers may unknowingly sell you a replacement pump for "high pressure" systems i.e. 6.5 bar/94.5 psi, which is incompatible with Guzzi fuel system components e.g. regulator, hoses, etc. The auto parts databases do not make such specification distinctions, so you have to be vigilant in understanding the system application.

As your Guzzi is a motorcycle and not an auto, and as such is excluded as a "manufacturer" from auto parts databases, the key to repair is obtaining a part number recognized by the auto industry (be prepared for the ubiquitous question: "What make, model, and year of car?"). On my '93 model, the failed OEM pump was a Weber #PI-121 (2.060 inches diameter, 4.065 body length w/o inlet and outlet; add an additional 1.45 in. length for the inlet nipple and 2.5 in. length for the outlet nipple. [Current pumps are considerably more compact in length than my OEM Weber, and finding a shorter one within specs always eases reinstallation, especially if located under the tank.]

Upon checking the pump's adjacent relay, and finding it good, the pump was removed and its motor found inoperable. The usual suspects were rounded up for parts; a prominent Midwest U.S. Guzzi dealer had none on hand, and could "order one" for $325, with an uncertain delivery date. The local NAPA and other auto parts houses could not cross reference the Weber number to any of their proprietary suppliers, or major auto manufacturer numbers. As it was now Sunday, an interact search was begun, and a speed shop in California pictured a "Redline Weber" pump (Weber # 112) seemingly identical to mine.

A subsequent call on Monday to shop staff revealed that the box for the pump was labeled "Pierburg", with the cost and shipping at approximately $220. As the specifications for the pump were unknown to the staff, and cross-reference to the OEM Weber pump could not be absolutely confirmed by the shop, I declined ordering for the moment.

A subsequent search confirmed that Pierburg, a German firm [well known in Europe but relatively unknown in the U.S.] was in fact producing the Weber pump with the exact specifications I needed (sold currently as the Pierburg #7.21565.70.0 and formerly numbered #7.21565.50.0 and #7.21565.52.0). A call to Pierburg's U.S. importer (Mr. Craig Wolfe, Peachtree, George; 1-770-631-7500) promised the pump's availability from an auto import shop in north Chicago, but a call to that shop revealed they did not have the pump in stock.

By now it was Tuesday, and hoping for a more local (and cheaper) source, other tantalizing clues emerged from the net; Volvo autos (with years and models!) linked to Pierburg numbers were found...and a local Guzzi owner with a '99 EV visited - his pump was mounted on the frame beneath the left side cover and the number was barely visible: Bosch #0580464048. A call next morning to a local Volkswagen shop and the Bosch was ordered with a promised next day delivery (indeed, it arrived on Thursday).

After ordering the Bosch pump, I also called NAPA with the Bosch number in hand, and NAPA was immediately able to cross reference it to their proprietary "Carter/Federal #P72018" for $174.73, and a call to Auto-Zone revealed their proprietary "Master #E7334" (with a lifetime guarantee for $189.99) was also an exact replacement for the Bosch. [Can you say "1991 BMW 318 IC automobile w/1.8 L 4 fuel injected engine"?]

The Bosch pump was installed, and the opportunity also used to replace the 8mm fuel line with fuel injection hose (Gates brand #SAE 30R9) which has a formula much more impervious to effects of heat and gasoline solvent breakdown than standard fuel line; I highly recommend it or a similar spec brand. Fuel line clamps were also used instead of U.S. style standard hose clamps, so as to avert line damage and provide more uniform connections. The gas filter was due for replacement, and was replaced as well (Bosch #F5005; other applicable fuel filters are: NAPA #3564; Car-Quest #86564; and NAPA #3008, which is slightly longer than the NAPA #3564).

The new Bosch pump worked perfectly, and was quieter than the original Weber.

Repairs to my Guzzi were expertly performed by noted Guzzi mechanic and tuner Steve Kames of Kingston, Illinois (815-784-2886), and special thanks to Mark Stohr and Steve for traveling 180 miles each way to pick me and the bike up instead of attending the Illinois Rally.

No particular reason was found for the OEM pump's failure; the fuel filter and lines were found to be clean of dirt and debris. As with all things mechanical, some part finally failed after years of trouble free service. Yours could last forever, or go out tomorrow. If it does fail, you can be prepared by becoming familiar with the function and location of the pump on your model Guzzi (buy and study the applicable fuel injection, factory repair, and parts manuals available from Moto Guzzi).

If replacement is needed, repairs are possible in relatively short order, and can be competently performed by you in absence of a skilled mechanic. And, the final installment of this saga may then be written: I believe a less-expensive ($100-120) external fuel pump applicable to Guzzis is "out there", perhaps through Tractor Supply Company or Fleet-Farm in the Midwest U.S., and with the numbers herein you may find it. The experience of European and other non-U.S. Guzzi owners may also be forthcoming as to sources/prices for pumps in their localities. In any event, you won't be required to take an endless detour through "auto parts hell", and that beautiful buzz will be back!

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Moto Guzzi National Owners Club (2024)

FAQs

What is special about Moto Guzzi? ›

Established in 1921 in Mandello del Lario, Italy, the company is noted for its historic role in Italy's motorcycling manufacture, its prominence worldwide in motorcycle racing, and industry innovations—including the first motorcycle centre stand, wind tunnel and eight-cylinder engine.

Is Moto Guzzi a reliable motorcycle? ›

It's not hard to get to most of what you'll need to be working on, and the parts are generally well enough built that there are few throw-away things on the motorcycle. A Guzzi is reliable. If you're squeamish about taking this obscure motorcycle on a long trip, don't be. These are very reliable motorcycles.

What is the average of Moto Guzzi? ›

The ARAI claimed mileage of Moto Guzzi V85 TT is 20.4 Kmpl.

What happened to Moto Guzzi? ›

For a time, even the Los Angeles Police Department used Moto Guzzis for its motorcycle fleet. Despite its successes, the company began to wane. Its founders died; its funding evaporated. Moto Guzzi endured decades of ownership changes before finally being absorbed into the giant Piaggio Group in 2004.

How long do Moto Guzzi engines last? ›

Cruisin' Guzzisti. Traditionally Guzzi engines last a very long time. Many would say that 15k miles is just about run in nicely! There's lots of very high mileage Guzzis out there and I know some owners are concerned the V7 mileometer can't read higher than 99,999 so at that point they will have to buy a new speedo!

What is the biggest engine in the Moto Guzzi? ›

There's a new entry point into the world of Moto Guzzi. The fourth-generation V7 roadster gets a bigger 853-cc V2 motor for 2021, complete with a 25-percent hike in peak power.

Do Moto Guzzi overheat? ›

Overheating: Overheating is a common issue faced by Moto Guzzi owners, especially in hot climates or during long rides. This could be caused by a variety of factors, such as a malfunctioning cooling system or a clogged radiator.

How long does a Moto Guzzi clutch last? ›

Additionally, keep some free play in the clutch cable to prevent it from dragging or not disengaging fully. Moto Guzzi clutches can last 20K miles (if you're extremely rough on them) or well over 100K miles with care and maintenance.

Where are Moto Guzzi engines made? ›

Moto Guzzi's motorcycle factory is located in Mandello del Lario, Italy. As a small town on the shore of Lake Como, its residents have so embraced the company that they've officially named it, “La Citta della Moto Guzzi”—the city of Moto Guzzis.

What is the difference between the Moto Guzzi V7 750 and 850? ›

The new 850 engine is significantly more powerful - torquier at low revs and generally a better ride as result. Overtaking was easy and keeping up with 60mph traffic fairly relaxed. Unlike the 750 where similar was definitely not it's forte.

Are modern Moto Guzzi reliable? ›

Owners of previous versions rave about the reliability and finish of their bikes, the only grumbles being about the rear shocks – which are improved on the 850. Our 2021 Moto Guzzi V7 owners' reviews show two very happy buyers who haven't had any problems whatsoever.

Who owns Moto Guzzi? ›

Founded in 1921, Moto Guzzi is an Italian motorcycle manufacturer with over 100 years of experience. Emanuele Vittorio Parodi, Carlo Guzzi, and Giorgio Parodi were the founding partners. In 2004, Moto Guzzi was purchased by Italian motorcycle giant Piaggio & C. SpA which owns it to date.

Is Moto Guzzi American? ›

1934: Moto Guzzi is the largest motorcycle manufacturer in Italy. 1939: The Airone 250 is launched, going on to be a huge success with 29,926 units being built. 1939-1945: Almost all production is given over to military manufacturing, resulting in the Alce, Trialce and Airone being built for the Italian Army.

Is Moto Guzzi sold in the USA? ›

Moto Guzzi Store USA & Canada.

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